Comments on: Forbidden Bible topic http://dechurched.com Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:35:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Angie M http://dechurched.com/bible/bible_topic/comment-page-1#comment-148 Angie M Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:34:20 +0000 http://dechurched.com/?page_id=100#comment-148 Love your website. I am recently dechurched and it's the best thing that could have happened because I now know what freedom in Christ means. I have felt very let down by the church and found no support at all. The church is full of cliques, gossipers and hypocrites. As long as you keep close to God I believe you can carry on a good relationship with him, or even draw closer to him without all the confusion and distraction. Church nearly destroyed by relationship with God, so that is why I got away. Love your website. I am recently dechurched and it’s the best thing that could have happened because I now know what freedom in Christ means. I have felt very let down by the church and found no support at all. The church is full of cliques, gossipers and hypocrites. As long as you keep close to God I believe you can carry on a good relationship with him, or even draw closer to him without all the confusion and distraction. Church nearly destroyed by relationship with God, so that is why I got away.

]]> By: admin http://dechurched.com/bible/bible_topic/comment-page-1#comment-141 admin Tue, 06 Jul 2010 02:57:07 +0000 http://dechurched.com/?page_id=100#comment-141 Just one question Steve. I couldnt quite see what happens to the unsaved in your post. What happens to them? Just one question Steve. I couldnt quite see what happens to the unsaved in your post. What happens to them?

]]> By: Steve http://dechurched.com/bible/bible_topic/comment-page-1#comment-140 Steve Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:17:08 +0000 http://dechurched.com/?page_id=100#comment-140 I have some good news and some bad news for you, my friend. The good news is that there is no hell (I mean hellfire and torture). That is man's invention, not God's! The bad news (for some) is that there is no such thing as "universal salvation". On the first point, it is a misconception that God (who is described as "love" in the Bible), burns people for their sins. The Bible repeatedly shows that "the wages sin pays is death", not everlasting burning!. To prove this, from the Bible, look at at Genesis 2.17. Does Adam face burning for rejecting his creator? No! he faces death. Now look at Jeremiah 7.1. How does God feel about people being burned? He hates it! The churches developed hellfire as a mechanism to keep the faithfull obedient to the church. It is offensive to God and has no place in Christianity. I have read the scriptures you quote and I understand why you think the way you do but, you have misunderstood their meaning. God wants all people to be saved and to live forever but, being a realist, he knows that this will not happen because, as Jesus explained, "most will not listen". So where does this leave God? Jesus prophecied that "this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come". Peter informs us that "God does not desire any to be destroyed but desires that all attain to repentance". However, "God is not one to be mocked" for "whatever a man is sowing, he shall reap". For example, if my neighbour insists on molesting children or stealing from others, or pushing drugs, should he be allowed to go on living when God replenishes the earth and gives it to the "meek"? The short answer, from the Bible is found at Acts 2.21 where Peter tells us that "Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah (or Yahweh), shall be saved". To call on the name of God is to know and respect that name and to act in accordance with his standards. God is not a modern alternative lifestyle guru who tolerates anything. He says " I am the same today as yeaterday". Most religions teach that "all paths lead to God" but God doesn't teach that! When he says that "all knees shall bend before him" (Jesus), he means that, all governements will have to move aside for his son's reign, whether they like it or not! I would be happy to discuss this further with you, if you wish. I am at jillysteve@hotmail.com. I have some good news and some bad news for you, my friend.

The good news is that there is no hell (I mean hellfire and torture). That is man’s invention, not God’s! The bad news (for some) is that there is no such thing as “universal salvation”.

On the first point, it is a misconception that God (who is described as “love” in the Bible), burns people for their sins. The Bible repeatedly shows that “the wages sin pays is death”, not everlasting burning!. To prove this, from the Bible, look at at Genesis 2.17. Does Adam face burning for rejecting his creator? No! he faces death. Now look at Jeremiah 7.1. How does God feel about people being burned? He hates it! The churches developed hellfire as a mechanism to keep the faithfull obedient to the church. It is offensive to God and has no place in Christianity.

I have read the scriptures you quote and I understand why you think the way you do but, you have misunderstood their meaning. God wants all people to be saved and to live forever but, being a realist, he knows that this will not happen because, as Jesus explained, “most will not listen”. So where does this leave God? Jesus prophecied that “this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come”. Peter informs us that “God does not desire any to be destroyed but desires that all attain to repentance”. However, “God is not one to be mocked” for “whatever a man is sowing, he shall reap”. For example, if my neighbour insists on molesting children or stealing from others, or pushing drugs, should he be allowed to go on living when God replenishes the earth and gives it to the “meek”?

The short answer, from the Bible is found at Acts 2.21 where Peter tells us that “Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah (or Yahweh), shall be saved”. To call on the name of God is to know and respect that name and to act in accordance with his standards. God is not a modern alternative lifestyle guru who tolerates anything. He says ” I am the same today as yeaterday”.

Most religions teach that “all paths lead to God” but God doesn’t teach that! When he says that “all knees shall bend before him” (Jesus), he means that, all governements will have to move aside for his son’s reign, whether they like it or not! I would be happy to discuss this further with you, if you wish. I am at jillysteve@hotmail.com.

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